TY - JOUR AB - Purpose The purpose of this paper is to compare a group of service users with mental health problems with a community comparison group of gym attenders.Design/methodology/approach Cross-sectional questionnaire surveys were conducted at a large gym (n = 181) and two community mental health facilities (n = 127) in the Greater Manchester area using a convenience sample approach. All participants completed the PERMA Scale, a measure of flourishing.Findings Gym attenders scored significantly higher on the five elements of PERMA. Their physical health ratings were almost double. They also had significantly lower levels of negative emotions and loneliness and higher levels of overall happiness.Research limitations/implications This study only considered levels of flourishing. Previous studies of quality of life have shown similar disparities between people with mental health problems and others.Practical implications Professor Seligman has claimed that improving levels of flourishing is the main aim of positive psychology. The present study suggests this may be especially challenging for people with mental health problems.Social implications The concept of flourishing could provide a more positive non-medical focus for mental health services, in the development of what some have called positive psychiatry. This complements the current recovery model.Originality/value To the best of the authors’ knowledge, this is one of the first studies to compare flourishing levels between individuals with mental health problems and a community comparison group using the PERMA Scale. VL - 24 IS - 3 SN - 2042-8308 DO - 10.1108/MHSI-05-2020-0027 UR - https://doi.org/10.1108/MHSI-05-2020-0027 AU - Allen Rosie Elizabeth AU - Carson Jerome AU - Merrifield Bethany AU - Bush Stacey PY - 2020 Y1 - 2020/01/01 TI - Still worlds apart: flourishing in people with mental health problems T2 - Mental Health and Social Inclusion PB - Emerald Publishing Limited SP - 163 EP - 172 Y2 - 2024/03/29 ER -